Whenever there are discussions about the best goalkeepers
to have played for Caernarfon Town, Russ Hughes is always a prominent future of
those debates. John King brought Russ to the Oval in 1986 and he stayed until
the 1990/91 season, during which time he firmly established himself as not only
one of, if not the, best keeper in our history but also one of the best in
non-league football. Russ is still an avid supporter of the club and regularly
attends matches at the Oval and I am very pleased to say that I managed to meet
him for the first time last January, at our Welsh Cup tie with Rhyl. I am every
bit as pleased to say that we have kept in touch since then and have got
together with Russ to carry out an exclusive interview for the blog.
So, here we are, an interview with a real legend of
the club….
OW: Please tell us about your career in football, from
your schooldays onwards.
Russ: “I started out playing football locally in
Wallasey for a team called Olympic and played for them up until I was eleven or
twelve years of age. Then a spell with Prenton Park Rovers and Tranmere Rovers
A and B teams before signing for Tranmere Rovers full time at seventeen. I was
there until until I was twenty one and
dropped down to amateur level playing at Vauxhall FC in the West Cheshire
League first division. I then signed semi-pro for South Liverpool in the
Northern Premier League and returned to Vauxhalls. I joined Caernarfon Town in
1986 and stayed there until 1990-91 before moving on to Stalybridge
Celtic in the HFS Loans League/Football Conference for five years, then
returned again to Vauxhalls and finished my career with a season at Northwich
Victoria.”
OW: Have you always been a goalkeeper Russ or did
you play in other positions as well?
Russ: “No, I started playing anywhere down the left
being a natural left footer...wing, midfield, fullback, until the age of ten. I
reverted to keeper because the goalie we had in the school team was far too
small and was causing us to lose games and I just thought I could do better in
that position.”
OW: Which team do you support and who is your
favourite player?
Russ: “When I was a youth my favourite player was
Pele, in fact that whole early seventies team were my heroes. My favourite
goalkeeper has always been Gordon Banks. That save, from my other hero's
goal-bound header.....incredible! I've supported Everton from an early age but
follow Tranmere and Caernarfon closely too.”
OW: Who were the biggest influences on your
footballing career?
Russ: “John King certainly influenced my career in
many ways and Gordon West, my goalkeeper development coach at Tranmere,
influenced the way I played.”
OW: How did your move to Caernarfon Town come
about?
Russ: “I was playing at Vauxhalls FC at the time. I
got a call from John King to ask if I was available to cover for Neil McAdam
who'd suffered a knee injury and that it was for Caernarfon Town. I said I
could and JK asked me to meet him for a goalkeeping training session in
Birkenhead Park the next afternoon. He was happy with what he saw and told me
to be ready to play the following night. I played over two hundred and fifty
games during my time at Caernarfon and have been told recently that I may top
the list of most games played for the club, but I’m not sure if that is true or
not.
OW: Did you know any of the players when you
arrived at Caernarfon?
Ray: “Obviously, as I've said earlier, I knew JK
well and also Steve Craven who was at Tranmere when I was there. Phil Wilson
would pop into Tranmere's physio room for treatment too so I knew of him.”
OW: What did you know of Caernarfon Town before you
joined?
Russ: “I knew of the club and that JK was there.
When I watched a game at South Liverpool, who i'd just signed for that day, it
was versus Caernarfon.”
OW: Can you remember your first match for the
Cofis?
Russ: “My first match was at short notice against
Chorley away, a mid-week fixture under floodlights. If I remember correctly I
had a steady game but we lost 1-0. I was beaten by a fierce shot that flew
through a crowded box into the top corner off the underside of the bar. Even
though we lost that game, I saw straight away that the team had potential. All
JK's teams like to play the passing game and that was evident from my first
match.”
OW: What do you recall of the qualifying rounds
that got the team to the first round proper of the FA Cup in 1986/87?
Russ: “I recall playing lots of games in the run up
to the first round proper, many of them replays. One sticks in my mind, I think
it was away at Eastwood. There was a big hostile home crowd expecting an easy
win and when they found their team on the losing side they were not happy at
all!! We played really well. I made a save late on that would have levelled the
tie, when we were 2-1 up. I went behind the goal to retrieve the ball and one
of the crowd threw a handful of gravel from the terraces into my face. The
karma moment was when I kicked the goal kick up field and we proceeded to score
again, killing their chances of progressing. Walking off, another member of
their fans spat in my face as I went down the tunnel?? Crazy day that was!”
OW: As the side progressed through the rounds, did
you feel that something special was happening?
Russ: “JK's philosophy was never to look too far
ahead. A won cup game would be "put in the cupboard" so to not
distract from the league games and opened up when the time comes. Personally I
felt we could do something special after the first round game against Stockport
County. That game proved to me that although professional teams are a bit
fitter the football played is the same. If we defended well, with the front
line we had, we were always going to be in with a chance. The town of
Caernarfon was suddenly on the map again and cameras from all channels wanted
to record what was happening!”
OW: What do you remember of the three FA Cup
matches against football league opposition?
Russ: “The Stockport game was tight with very few
chances on either side. The back four was solid, and our midfield busy closing
down, in the end I felt they just committed too many players forward in their
push to get a goal. We broke out of defence one time in the second half and
sent Austin Salmon into the channel to score. I didn't really feel any pressure
in that game, even though we defended for most of it.
The York game at home was again very tight and
cagey but this time we had a bigger crowd that gave a buzz of excitement around
the Oval. Both sides defended well and neither side really got the upper hand,
having the odd chance here and there. After the final whistle you could feel
the atmosphere around the club had changed, the town itself had an upbeat feel
to it. The replay a few days later was an immense occasion for Caernarfon Town.
I remember well turning into York's ground and a hundred or so York fans
ridiculing the old team coach we arrived in, bellowing smoke from the exhaust
as we came to a stop (it was well past it's use-by date). Ken Jones was our
coach driver. Little did we know at that point that we'd be having the last
laugh later. The game itself was exciting. Again a bigger crowd, including up
to three hundred Caernarfon fans who'd made the trip. They were fantastic and
made plenty of noise to keep us going. We had to take quite a bit of pressure
for the first part of the half. I came out of goal and plucked a cross off
their forwards head and we collided in the air gashing my eyelid which needed
stitching, but I was quickly patched up by sponge man Ian Humphreys so I could
play on. After that I punted the ball towards Ray Woods, it evaded the fullback
and put Ray in down the wing free to cross into the box and bundled over the
line by Austin Salmon to make it 1-0. York's fans went silent, our fans went
absolutely crazy for the rest of the half. Half time team talk by JK tells us
to keep our defensive shape and keep playing our football. Second half much the
same, back four at full stretch but holding out, and I had to make a few saves.
Then once again we break out, Steve Craven is put through and we score again.
From then on we take a barrage of attacks from York, who miss chance after
chance before finally getting a goal back, then they missed a couple more. When
the whistle went for full time York fans applauded us off the pitch along with
our ecstatic group of fans. That moment of going to the fans to applaud their
support lives with me to this day. I felt proud of what the club had achieved
that night.
The Barnsley games were up another level again.
Better players of a higher standard and again bigger crowds. I felt the
pressure of expectation for the first time and everyone was expecting another
win, literally willing us on. Barnsley were a good team with some seasoned
players. We did really well as a unit to keep a clean sheet but never really
tested their keeper. The replay was harsh, we played really well but couldn't
pinch a goal for our efforts. We eventually conceded the goal that put us out
of the competition late on in the second half, scored by Roger Wilde with a
powerful header from about the penalty spot that gave me little chance of
saving. Our dreams were over until next
time.”
OW: What
are your thoughts on that FA Cup side Russ?
Russ:
“The FA cup team was made up from players JK was familiar with from Tranmere
and Northwich. Players like Ken Jones, Steve Craven, Dave Wignall, Ray Woods,
Bobby Tynan, Phil Wilson and myself. Most played at a higher standard than the
Northen Premier for many years before joining JK at the Oval. We had three
regular welsh players, Huw Williams the tower of strength at centre half and
two full backs, Glyn Griffiths (who played the whole campaign with his shin
bone metal plated...he delayed the operation to have it removed so he could
carry on playing out the season!? What a guy!) and Robyn Jones. And there were
a few appearances made by a young Stuart Williams also.”
OW: What type of manager was John King and what
made him so special?
Russ: “JK was what they refer to as a players
manager, he knew how to get the best out of each player. He loved the passing
game, was passionate about football and would infect you with his love for the
game. He was very well respected by other managers and connected with a lot of
players he could call on when needed. He was very philosophical in his thinking
and had many football related sayings that would explain his feeling about the
game ahead. He was a student of Bill Shankly no doubt as he a large portrait of
him in his office at Prenton Park.”
OW: What made that FA Cup side so special in your
eyes Russ?
Russ: “All great teams have a good atmosphere
around the dressing room and training ground and the '86 team was no different.
Everyone got on really well, so we ended up as a solid unit that would work
hard for each other. Back four were really solid. Full backs, Glyn Griffiths,
Dave Higgin's and Robyn Jones, all of them pacey and hard tacklers. Centre
Backs Huw Williams, Ken Jones and Bobby Tynan, I could write a paragraph for
each of them. Very strong and skillful with a ton of experience between them.
Midfielders, the Dave's, Martindale and Wignall, box to box players with great
passing abilities and free kicks. Wingers, Ray Woods and Phil Wilson, constant
headaches for any defender, and fed the strike force of Steve Craven and Austin
Salmon. The last six players I mentioned all had a goal in them which gave us
many options in attack.”
OW: Were you disappointed that we didn’t draw one of
the really big First Division sides in the third round?
Russ: “I wasn't disappointed because I personally
felt that we had more chance to progress with the lower league teams than a big
team. Barnsley to me was a good draw from the hat. Yeah a big club would have
been good, but I preferred to keep my feet firmly on the ground at the time.”
OW: What are your memories from your time at the
club?
Russ: “I have lots of memories and constant
reminders too. I remember how packed the Oval was for the Barnsley game, inside
and out, with some onlookers on roof tops. The rivalry with Bangor City, they
were always hard fought matches that sometimes got out of hand. Having the
legend Tommy Smith as my manager, he was a really nice guy that was nothing
like his media image. Getting to the semi-final of the Welsh Cup against
Cardiff City and getting to play against Alan Curtis. Being asked by Dai Davies
if I was eligible to be cover goalkeeper for the Welsh national side (Sadly I
wasn't). Saving a penalty from Frank Worthington who was player/manager against
us at the time when the score was 2-2. We won with a last minute goal too! Hearing
Caernarfon Town mentioned on the ‘Saint & Greavsie Show’. I also remember
when it took over three hours from my home to get to the Oval, along the old
country roads, through, rather than round, Conway. Lastly I have a scar across
my eyelid, with seven stitches, from the York City game I mentioned earlier.
People often ask how I got it and I wear it with pride.”
OW: What was the Oval like in the days you played
on it?
Russ: “When I played the first season at the Oval
it wasn't a good playing surface at all.It was what we would call a leveller, Bumpy
in places, boggy in one corner. No matter how good a team was the pitch would
flatten the skills level and equal the game a bit. JK insisted that the pitch
be worked on, to give the lads a chance to play a passing style at home like we
did at away matches on better surfaces. We had to change the way we played a
bit at the Oval, be a bit more direct. It did improve gradually through the
season but still not a patch on the surface that they have now. It's been good
to see the improvements to the whole ground over the years.”
OW: How often do you get down to the ground Russ?
Russ: “I've been down to see a few games over the
last ten years and also played two matches with other former Town players on
the Oval. “
The Reunion and thoughts on the present Caernarfon
Town side. Russ travelled down to see the present side in action twice last
season. The first was for the Welsh Cup tie with Rhyl and then, a few weeks later,
he was present for the FA Cup side’s thirty year reunion, and saw us defeat
Holywell 6-2. Russ completed a hat-trick of victorious visits to the ground just
a month later when he once again kept goal for Caernarfon Town in a legends
match. It was good to see that Russ had lost none of his nimble footwork and
excellent handling as he kept a clean sheet against the opposition. But really,
for those of us lucky enough to have seen him play for us all those years ago,
a clean sheet was no surprise at all.
OW: Did you enjoy the present team's match on the
day of the reunion and what do you think of the side that has been put
together?
Russ: “I always enjoy travelling down to Caernarfon
to catch a game at the Oval and have been following closely what the club
has been trying to achieve. You’ve built up a good base with the academy set up
and this will most certainly benefit the club for the future. The club has also
gathered together a good first team squad of players that want to pass the ball
and play a game with the passion that the fans expect. I fully expect them to
get the desired promotion to the Premier this season.”
OW: Did any of the players impress you when you saw
the side last season?
Russ: “The whole team put on a fine display that
day, but generally I have been impressed with players such as Nathan Craig, who
has that classic left boot, Darren Thomas, who has lovely dribbling
skills and can pick out the decisive pass to set up for others. Strong and
solid at the back is Gareth Edwards, who marshals the defence well. Jay Gibbs
also stands out as one of those that plays with the passion I spoke of earlier,
constantly wants to be on the ball and moves it around the pitch quickly. Jamie
Breese has pace and has an eye for goal. It’s all exciting to watch.”
OW: How did you enjoy the reunion with our FA Cup
side a few months ago, and how nice was it to meet up with your former
team-mates, and also Mr King's family?
Russ: “Yes it was a great evening put on by the
club. I was amazed how many made the trip down for the night. I had a good
catch up with the lads and was nice to have JK's family present to experience
the love Caernarfon Town has for him and what he did for the club.”
OW: Did you enjoy watching the FA Cup video on the
night, and did it bring back a few memories for you?
Russ: “It was great to watch the old footage again.
The video captured perfectly the atmosphere around the club and town with
all the media attention our results had attracted. As for memories of the
games I took part in, they are still as fresh as the day they happened.”
OW: You returned to the ground a few weeks after the
reunion to take part in a legends match, how did it feel to be back in goal for
Caernarfon Town at the Oval?
Russ: “I really enjoyed the game and playing with
some of my old team mates.... Stu Clinch and Stu Williams, Alan Schuey, it
was always going to be fun.”
OW: And how did it feel to keep another clean sheet
for the Cofis?
Russ: “I did have a good back four to help me out,
but yeah, it’s always good not to concede a goal especially when
you're playing in a ‘Legends’ side.”
Huge thanks to Russ for answering all these
questions, which just goes to prove that not only was he a great goalkeeper for
Caernarfon Town but he is also a great guy and a real ambassador for the club.
*Thanks to Richard Birch for the photographs of Russ in his playing days with Caernarfon Town.
*Thanks to Richard Birch for the photographs of Russ in his playing days with Caernarfon Town.